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Our second wedding anniversary is coming up and I know David likes concrete suggestions for presents. I really would like a pair or peridot earrings. Simple studs. Nothing extravagant or even all that expensive. I was poking about and just for fun I went to the Cartier website. (Seriously I know how much things tend to cost there, but Julia Robert's niece was on TV talking about the Cartier bracelet she got for her 16th birthday so I just went to look.) I saw they had very pretty peridot earrings. No price listed. I submitted an inquiry so they would email me the price. $4,000 plus. For peridots. Not emeralds. Not diamonds. Peridots. OK! I thought they were probably $1,000 peridots and I would laugh about it. No. $4,000+ dollars. I didn't laugh. I could never ever buy those even if I had the money. I found a nice pair of studs for less than $100 elsewhere that I like better. Jeez.


And speaking of wildly conspicuous consumption, the NY Times has an article about this $100 million diamond encrusted skull. Made by an artist, well conceived by an artist and executed by jewelers. But is all OK because they certified that the diamonds were not blood diamonds. That 's a whole flotilla of insane.

People who can't spring for the $100 million skull can pick up a $20,000 silk screened T shirt sprinkled with diamond dust. Man, I remember when I looked at the price tag on a plain white tee shirt in Agnes B. ten years ago and nearly passed out when I saw it was a $600 white cotton tee shirt. This is a whole new level of tee shirt luxury. That shirt better be the softest tee shirt ever made.

So if you had a $20,000 tee shirt would you wear it? Frame it? And if you did wear it would you wash it? Wouldn't subsequent washing, well, wash away the diamond dust?

All this has me thinking about self worth. I would never buy $4k earrings or a $20k tee shirt because I think there are much better things I could do with that money. But am I worth it? I really don't think I am. I just don't feel that great about myself that I want to buy myself a $20k diamond skull shirt.


Random possibly inane LOVE YOURSELF MEME idea

I've seen love memes and hate memes of various flavors over the last five years. Has anyone ever done a meme in which lj'ers are encouraged to post something positive about themselves? I'm sure they probably have. But I really like the idea.

There seem to be two sort of people (gross oversimplification, I know.) People who cannot shut up about themselves and people who have a hard time making unqualified positive statements about themselves. I'm not big on bragging, but I think many women and some men have trouble voicing their own triumphs and strengths without adding irony or qualifying the statement. Jeez, just look at the text I have up there in bold.

So feel free. Tell me something about yourself that you are proud of. Don't hem or haw. Just say it. Tell me what you have done or what you love about you. No judging - just encouragement. Tell me ten things if you like, or just one.
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I still can't believe there are $30 T-shirts, let alone ones with extra zeros.

As for your meme... um. I have really pretty toenails right now?
 
Also, how are you liking your BPAL so far? I'm not in love with any of the scents I've tried so far.
 
I got sidetracked because of my sick last week. So far 51 and Amsterdam are big fat nos. Manhattan has possibilities and so does Envy. I'm going to have to try Thalia again.

I can send you my 51, Arcana, and Amsterdam (which I love the idea of but it does not like me!) if you want to try them?
 
OK, you just graduated from college. And got accepted to a very good grad program, no? You should crow about that a little!
 
You just graduated from a great grad program with what, an 8.0? So you should crow about that!

Lemme look those up -- I've tried Bess, and it's a no, but I think Sophia is a keeper, and maybe Machu Picchu too -- I need to try it again. When I'm done testing I'll know what I want to keep, and I'll offer you anything I don't want. :)
 
Yes, I should. I did really well. And I have a major important editor seriously considering my work. :D

links to what I have. (http://imaginarycircus.livejournal.com/104816.html#cutid1) I made a reference post for my own sake. :D
 
The deal with Hirst is that he was part of that group of Sensation artists who were backed by the Saatchi collection and made the big stink in the US around 1997-98. Do you remember the whole thing with Guiliani and Chris Offili's Madonna with the elephant dung in it? Same group. In that exhibition Hirst showed a cast of his head (I think it was hid) made out of blood. And there was something significant about the weight or the quantity of it. I don't remember what he did to make it stable - suspended it somehow?

Anyway, the moral of this thing to me is that Hirst is working out of a timeline in which he's one of the major stars of the contemporary art world (true) working in an art market without a cost ceiling (so not true these days). My feeling is that the change in economy will mean that no one will buy this thing and help Hirst see that the times they are a changing.

As for the work itself, I feel the exorbitant price of the thing offsets its conceptual merits (which I think it actually does have).
 
I'll add that the whole concept of the t-shirt is fucking bullshit. That's just absurd. If he wants to sell things for 20K he should encrust tiny little finger bones with diamonds or something. The form of a t-shirt just doesn't vibe with the idea of the piece.
 
I know! It just becomes money grubbing at that point. And I guess there is an art form to that, but I wouldn't call it Art. Jeez.
 
I think it is kind of cool - but yeah the price is O_o And I know who he is. I know there has also been stuff like Cindy Sherman's spread in Vogue 8 years ago and other things like that. There is a cult of celebrity with artists now in a different way than there was before Warhol and Basquiat.
 
posted by [identity profile] effbeye.livejournal.com at 05:32pm on 13/06/2007
I think women in particular have trouble taking ownership of their accomplishments. Men are not encouraged as much as women to be humble.

I'm proud of my ability to think critically. I've never been one to just go with the flow or jump on board with a particular philosophy or movement. I like to question and examine from many angles. I think the lack of ability to do this in many people leads to serious problems and conflicts. Hello,
Red State / Blue State divide.
 
posted by [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com at 05:59pm on 15/06/2007
Cool. I agree with you. It is a sore spot for many women.

Man, it drives me crazy that people get stuck on one point of view. Obviously as writers we are interested in as many POVs as we can find -- but as people we should all be interested in understanding a problem or issue from one of more points of view, because often more than one is valid at the same time. And once you can see that it adds a whole new level of complexity to the world. And that complexity is a good thing.

Did you get your thesis eval yet? I just got mine and boy did it perk up my lousy week.
 
posted by [identity profile] mimulus-arbutus.livejournal.com at 09:58pm on 13/06/2007
good lord, the idea of the skull is bad enough, but that's ART, so they can get away with it. a T-SHIRT? that's just stupid. "hello, i am greedy. please buy my shit that you will be too afraid to ever wear."

yeah, i'm really of the type that won't spend money on myself. i think ANY piece of clothing over $50 is overpriced, unless it's a really nice dress or suit or something. i don't see the point of wearing a $200 pair of jeans just because they make your butt look fantastic, isn't that just false advertising? i mean, maybe if they make you FEEL really great about yourself, but then wouldn't that just make you shallow? i very rarely buy clothes (or anything else, besides staples like food, etc) though, so i'm not really that helpful in this discussion.

i saw a meme like that once, but it was in context of "hey women, tell me something you love about your body, there is too much body-hate going around!" i'm not someone who values my experiences and accomplishments as much as i should. i always seem to have an excuse, like "oh, yeah, i went to the national championships in college rowing, but it wasn't really because i DESERVED it, it's just because my boat liked me," which in itself actually means i DID deserve it. things like that. but yeah, i am certainly of the latter of the 2 types. and it's not really because i think i'm a bad person or whatever, i don't know what it is. my parents were always very careful in always letting us know how proud they were of us and how much they loved us. and yeah, i went through the self-loathing thing, and still have issues with it at times, but i think i'm a pretty cool person most of the time. but still, i tend to be overly modest and to let other people take advantage of me by not standing up for myself. maybe it's just that i don't feel like i'm that important, not necessarily in a bad way, just that i'm just one little person, and i don't matter that much in the grand scheme of things?

but you know, i essentially put myself through college for 2 bachelor's degrees (and a minor) while being a varsity athlete. i married my best friend in what we still feel was the best way possible, and we own a great house that we've truly made our own and are constantly improving a little bit at a time. we have two adorable puppies that i searched for MONTHS to find and then convinced the people to adopt them to us. maybe i don't have a high-paying, prestigious job, or a masters or medical degree like a lot of my friends, but i have a job that i love and am good at, and it's a job that makes the world a little bit better of a place. it's a great feeling to be able to answer people's questions, give good advice, show them cool things, and educate them, and to have kids (and some adults) look up to you. i feel like my life is pretty simple and nice, and i try to live in a fairly sustainable manner. i don't have any outstanding talents or beauty or success, but i don't really care, because i don't need them. like i told my good friend (the one who has serious self-esteem issues), it's all in how you spin things. you can make any life or any thing sound amazing or shitty, depending on how you feel about it. so honestly, what more could i ask for? :)
 
posted by [identity profile] danbi.livejournal.com at 02:03am on 14/06/2007
I don't pay too much attention to my money. I hope you get something awesome for your anniversary. Congrats by the way!

Haha, I gotta admit, it took me a while to be able to say something good without feeling like a jackass or following it up with a self-chiding after-remark. But now I feel able to do just that because I know I don't mean it as an "I'm better than you!!!" sentiment. Just an appreciative one.

Something about me? I'm objective. Which is, haha, pretty different than a few years ago. It's much freer though, I gotta say. I'm also peaceful and - oh! Straightforward. It's rare that someone wonders where they stand with me. And I don't mean I tell people they piss me off or whatever, but just...I'm authentic, is how my dad puts it. It's good times.
 
posted by [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com at 01:40pm on 14/06/2007
YAY! See, it is hard. I have hard time saying I am good at X, because I worry it implies that I think I am better at X than other people. Which is silly because people should be able to say I am good at X without it being a loaded statement.

Being straightforward is something I admire and appreciate. I hate it when I think people are lying to me, or being disingenuous.

 
posted by [identity profile] elements.livejournal.com at 05:26am on 15/06/2007
randomness on diamonds, via [livejournal.com profile] upsilon:
http://www.slate.com/id/2167870/pagenum/all/
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198202/diamond

I think it would be more fun in an arty way if he put the skull on auction and then got a bidder and then revealed it was all cubic zirconium, and let the bidder out of the contract, and used it as a performance piece on the meaning of wealth and arbitrarily assigned value and whatnot. Now *that* would be hot.

I have a hard time tooting my own horn but I am actively trying to get better at it. I often don't think I'm "smart enough" but when I do something brilliant, it makes me really happy, and then I realize I'm plenty smart enough for me and it's OK that I didn't become a famous astrophysicist after all the way I wanted to when I was a kid. I think maybe the thing I value most about myself is my social-systems creativity and analytical ability, and my natural feel for folkdance. Those are both things I'm finally able simply to be proud of without feeling like I have to qualify it.
 
posted by [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com at 01:14am on 20/06/2007
I love your idea about the auction. So smart. :D

Famous astrophysicists are usually also very difficult and annoying! Who needs them?!

And yes you should feel proud without qualifying it about things that you are good at. We seem to have the opposite problem than the generation just after us who want to think they are superlative at everything.
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posted by [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com at 07:36pm on 16/06/2007
I have thrown myself, and am continuing to throw myself, hard into my love affair with Meg. (And she is doing the converse for me!)
 
posted by [identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com at 01:09am on 20/06/2007
That is so monumentally awesome! :D I'm really thrilled that you found each other. Marriage is great, right?

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